Going into debt to fund pensions seems like a ridiculous thing to do, especially for a company had a chance to shed more of those pension obligations in bankruptcy.

Please consider the Wall Street Journal story GM Wants to Up Credit Line

General Motors Co. is in preliminary talks with banks to potentially double its $5 billion line of credit as the auto maker looks to strengthen its balance sheet and shrink pension obligations, according to people with knowledge of the discussions.

The world's largest auto maker by sales is in no danger of running short on cash. The Detroit company has very little debt and held about $33 billion in available cash at June 30. Analysts believe it needs roughly $20 billion to operate comfortably. It currently has an available line of credit of $5 billion.




But GM could have hefty cash needs ahead. Its European operations are racking up major losses, it is increasing capital spending on new vehicles, and it may want to repurchase shares held by the U.S. Treasury. GM also wants to reduce its U.S. pension obligations. Pensions for hourly, union workers and retirees are underfunded by about $10 billion and have been a major concern for investors.

GM is spending around $4 billion to shift responsibility of its $26 billion salaried retiree pension program to Prudential Financial Inc. PRU +1.52% in a deal set to close by year-end. A bigger drag on the company is the $71 billion in pension obligations it has to union-represented hourly workers and retirees. That account is underfunded by $10 billion, according to public filings.

GM's Pension Liabilities

On June 1, 2012 the Chicago Tribune reported GM to cut about one-fourth of U.S. pension liability
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Mike Shedlock is a registered investment advisor representative for Sitka Pacific Capital Management.

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hitthedeck Wrote: Aug 28, 2012 2:17 AM
I can't believe Mike didn't mention that GM just shut down Chevy Voit production line for failing sales for 012. Another shocking example of Government guidence down using the Amtrak model of government business leadership.
Derek85 Wrote: Aug 27, 2012 10:08 PM
After just declaring bankruptcy and stiffing all their creditors, subcontractors, bondholders .... GM wants to INCREASE its credit line.

Any bank stupid enough to loan them money deserves to lose it.
Derek85 Wrote: Aug 27, 2012 10:11 PM
I thought that the government was AGAINST banks making high risk loans ?

I guess that is only when the loans go to people Obama does not like.
Chris from Kalifornia Wrote: Aug 27, 2012 10:16 PM
Exactly right. After what happened to their creditors last time ANYONE who would lend them money should be institutionalized for treatment as being clinically insane.
Chamuk78 Wrote: Aug 27, 2012 6:42 PM
Seeing all of this, I'm not surprised that GM aka Government Motors is in trouble again. This is what happens when government takes over and run the means of production. It has never worked and never will. Central planned economies have never worked. That's why the Soviet Union went the way of the dinosaurs.
Don11350 Wrote: Aug 27, 2012 3:08 PM
Unions are an anachronism; they aren't needed today. Today, they are no better than the mafia.
Ronald C. Wrote: Aug 27, 2012 2:32 PM
An excellent game plan for management desiring to TEE-Up its next bankruptcy to favor unions over secured creditors AGAIN!
Robert97 Wrote: Aug 27, 2012 12:08 PM
I used to do commercial banking, but I don't understand this story. Usually bank lines of credit are set up to allow a borrow to borrow short term, for example to finance a seasonal build-up of inventory. If I thought lending to a company to buy back equity, I would make a term loan, and insist on a pretty solid plan of strong earnings or the next several years. Borrowing to reduce pension liabilities? Equity investors should view money owed the bank as even riskier than owing pension liabilities (payments will come sooner).
Rondoman Wrote: Aug 27, 2012 11:40 AM
I guess the union will have to take over car design. What self-respecting engineer would want to work for as company where he or she is treated as necessary baggage to keep the union solvent? I will never purchase a GM product as long as the taxpayer is being shafted.
J. Galt Wrote: Aug 27, 2012 11:35 AM
GM apprarently has no intention of repaying its loans to the US Treasury/Taxpayers and as a government operation, has no motivation to be profitable. How it can sit on cash while it owes the US Taxpayers $200B+ makes no sense. The company has been bailed out several times its net worth.
geotay Wrote: Aug 27, 2012 1:51 PM
I'm wondering if we will ever know how much of that taxpayer money will be spent on the Obama campaign?
GaryL1 Wrote: Aug 27, 2012 3:16 PM
Exactly, funneled through the union, which is a part owner of GM.
Greg1084 Wrote: Aug 27, 2012 6:53 AM
GM can't save on the union deals, so it is sacrificing middle management. Maybe they have management robots waiting in the wings.
FrankMP Wrote: Aug 27, 2012 11:57 AM
Being a government entity and the top benefactor for demoncrats, they may be misleading us on their bottom line accounting.(Bankers are invested in this cooking class). Some sort of survival move may be in the works for GM. Of course the Unions would stand to lose without putting more taxes on the rich 50,000 dollars per year WORKERS. Thank Lenin for the party of the compassionate. We could collect approximately 74,000 dollars a year if we have a family of four. Therefor get a 50% or so raise and retire while still young.