2.2 Million Go On Disability Since Mid-2010; Fraud Explains Falling Unemployment Rate

Mike Shedlock

Since mid-2010, precisely at the time millions of US citizens used up all of their 99 week of unemployment insurance, disability claims have risen by 2.2 million. Those on disability are not counted in the workforce and are not considered unemployed.

Please consider Disabled Americans Shrink Size of U.S. Labor Force

Mike Shedlock

Mike Shedlock is a registered investment advisor representative for Sitka Pacific Capital Management.

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Ronald494 Wrote: May 06, 2012 11:35 PM

One can hardly blame the fraudsters for defrauding the government which caused their unemployment in the first place.

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Ivan70 Wrote: May 06, 2012 10:48 PM

What do you expect when you have a fraud in the Whitehouse?

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Blair31 Wrote: May 06, 2012 7:05 PM

This is what Obama wants, Comrades!

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loadstar Wrote: May 06, 2012 1:45 PM

Unemployment is highest among the unskilled and low-skilled-- precisely the
types that ILLEGALS displace.

What happens after rare show raids at meat processors, etc.? Americans
reclaim the jobs immediately!

American taxpayers and consumers save NOTHING from the labor of ILLEGALS.
The owners pocket the savings, while everyone else eats the immense
concomitant socio-economic costs. Your hotel room, or sausage, or
landscaping is NO cheaper to YOU.

Those direct costs ALONE in Mexifornia total > $10 BILLION according to a
Congressman Gary Miller, which is over half of that state's budget deficit.

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loadstar Wrote: May 06, 2012 1:44 PM

are foreign workers truly needed?

re:
"Do we REALLY have a key shortage of UNskilled labor in this country?

We need more scientists and engineers, not more grape pickers."

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What America actually needs is EDUCATED SKILLED workers, preferably arriving
with means-- NOT the ignorant poor typical of ILLEGAL aliens.

The educated quickly become net contributors all-in...in marked contrast,
those who arrive here poor and ignorant inexorably become HUGE NET
TAKERS/USERS.

We are now an advanced service economy-- totally different than 100 years
ago when we had our last big wave of LEGAL immigrants.

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loadstar Wrote: May 06, 2012 1:44 PM

(cont'd)

Also, we now have a welfare state created mainly by LBJ, building on the
dangerous foundation established by FDR. Ergo, poor immigrants can tap into
myriad welfare services-- first ILLEGALLY, and then legally if they are
granted amnesty.

Where is our unemployment rate the highest? Among teens and the unskilled,
mainly minorities, including LEGAL Hispanics. Who causes their unemployment
for 8 million jobs? ILLEGAL aliens.

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loadstar Wrote: May 06, 2012 1:43 PM

Judy wrote:

Location: CA

Who's Got My Teenager's Job?

I know I live in Mexifornia, but why can't I just go through the drive-in and order a simple hamburger without bringing along an interpreter?!

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loadstar Wrote: May 06, 2012 1:49 PM

If Obama and the Left put 12 million on a path to amnesty, employers will no longer want them-- but the myriad social pathologies will remain! (serious crimes, gangs, illegitimacy's, barrio blight, bilingual dysfunction...ask them how that bilingual thing is working for them in Quebec)

The small city of Moultrie, Ga., now has an Hispanic Gang Unit part of its police department...must be because they are so close to Mexico (1200+ miles)!

The supposed benefits of multiculturalism are a dissembling, LIBERAL MYTH!

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Pistol Wrote: May 06, 2012 1:31 PM

Oficcially, unemployment is about 5% for college grads, 10% for high school grads, 17% for dropouts, and with responsible estimates up to 30 % for inner city droopy drawers iiliterates. 5% indicates a healthy expanding economic environment, but with overall growth at 2%, it indicates that the misery of the tanking economy is felt most by workers at the bottom of the economic totem pole. Welfare cases are not suffering yet, because gov'mint checks keep coming. It is the bottom quartile working class that has to wise up and put the blocks to Barry. If they choose nanny government and class warfare over fiscal sanity and opportunity in a growing economy, we can kiss the dollar and world leadership sayonara.

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The Obama Timeline author Wrote: May 06, 2012 1:28 PM

The Obama administration has asked disability claims judges to not look at sites like Facebook to see if applicants are cheating—something that might be revealed by posted photographs of physical activity that are inconsistent with a claim of injury. Obama is essentially telling the claims examiners: “Pay no attention to the photo of the guy with the bad back who is bungee jumping.”

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Biggbear51 Wrote: May 06, 2012 12:59 PM

According to the people and the ACTUAL numbers of unemployed the real percentage is hovering right at 19.8% if you cout everything that is supposed to be counted. Yet the last OFFICIAL number was recently touted at 8.1%. January 2009 it was 7.9% and this Keyen National swears that by Nov. 6th 2012 it will be below 8%. When you deliberately doctor numbers, of course it will. Thus the true colors of the INSANOCRAT party!

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The Obama Timeline author Wrote: May 06, 2012 1:28 PM

If Obama can get all 13 million unemployed on welfare in the next five months, the unemployment rate will be zero by election day!

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Reginald10 Wrote: May 07, 2012 3:34 PM

The trick is in requiring people on Unemployment Compensation to apply for 3 jobs a week to be eligible for UC; whether those are suitable or not, and no repeats. Sooner or later, you run out of plausible jobs to apply for, and so you must stop filing for UC. Presto! The count of those "looking for work" goes down one, and the Unemployment Rate drops. . . even though you're still unemployed, and looking for work if you can find something plausible. Not selling windows or magazine subscriptions over the phone, for example. (Both I had applied for, without knowing their details, but then realized they weren't enough to pay my bills.)

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Biggbear51 Wrote: May 06, 2012 12:42 PM

Last I heard or read, to falsify these numbers on a National scale was, ILLEGAL. This treasonous bastage needs to spend many, many years in Federal lock up without the possibility and his Chi-Thugs need to be right there with him!

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dahni Wrote: May 06, 2012 11:53 AM

Here's and economic picture. Just say a news report on tv showing how the Durham School District in NC is taking care of their students. One thing they provide is backpacks, yes, backpacks, for needy children. But the backpacks are filled with food! They are feeding the childen over the weekend as well as offering breadfast, lunch and a snack at school!

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RamonAdams Wrote: May 06, 2012 2:45 PM

dahni
and the San Antonio Housing Auth is giving FREE bicycles to everyone who lives in public housing.
http://www.foxsanantonio.com/newsroom/top_stories/videos/vid_10188.shtml

Anyone interested in a pool on how many of those are being used/owned by the original recipient year from now? I'll give odds

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capitalust Wrote: May 07, 2012 10:59 AM

Bet you can get a really good price around that area on some of those bikes used but in like new condition - blacks don't particularly consider bikes to be "pimped out rides".

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RamonAdams Wrote: May 06, 2012 2:45 PM

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loadstar Wrote: May 06, 2012 10:56 AM

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For economic starters, how about locating and 'kicking out' the millions of undocumented aliens who have sewed up entire sectors of the entry job market.

WHO in Washington DC is watching out for the AMERICAN middle and lower class? Americans want JOBS, not government hand outs!

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ILLEGAL aliens typically do work diligently, but their main appeal to miscreant employers is undercutting LEGAL wage earners...and they do NOT pass on those savings to YOU...YOU just get stuck with the IMMENSE social costs. Amnesty would DESTROY that interim appeal...they would simply be more ignorant, guvment dependent Po' People!

Mexifornia ALONE is spending $10.5 BILLION supporting its ILLEGALS per Cong. Gary Miller (R, Cal)

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loadstar Wrote: May 06, 2012 10:59 AM

Fed. Res. Bank socio-economist's study of immigrants...some immigrants are FAR WORSE for America than others...

https://www.dallasfed.org/research/indepth/2004/id0401a.html

excerpt (released in 2006)--

Immigrant Assimilation: Why Worry?

Conclusion:

Worrying about immigrant assimilation boils down to worrying about Mexican immigration. Non-Hispanic immigrants consistently outperform natives, even after three generations here.

Meanwhile, Mexican immigrants make up the largest and least educated immigrant group. While they make the biggest gains (coming from such a mean base) after coming to the United States, they STILL lag behind in education and wage outcomes even after 3 generations here.

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loadstar Wrote: May 06, 2012 11:01 AM

ILLEGALS' agendas are FAR different from historical waves of LEGAL
immigrants, and their sheer multitude means that they can blow off
assimilation as they choose.

BUT ILLEGALS are invading to a VERY different America than the America of
100 years ago when the big wave of LEGAL immigrants arrived.

Three things are hugely different about today's America's advanced service
economy:

1) We now have a welfare state that ILLEGALS can lean on

2) The PC multicultural ilk supports their ethnocentric desire for cultural
diversity and resistance to assimilation

3) Unfortunately, ILLEGAL aliens have VERY little chance of escaping the
bottom rung here socio-economically if they are allowed to stay

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Zdravko Wrote: May 06, 2012 12:05 PM

Mexico population consists of 50% Indians (Toltecas, Aztecas, Mayas, Olmecas, etc.), 45 % "mestizos" or mixed Indian/Spanish, and 5% Spanish Europeans. Illegal aliens living here are mostly illiterate Indians plus mestizos; the latter provide the criminal class majority praying on the Indians. Power in Mexico is shared between the Spanish whites and the mestizos, while Indians are totally excluded.

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dahni Wrote: May 06, 2012 11:57 AM

Illegals of any race tend to work, but a larger percentage are on welfare, are criminals, are dope dealers, and take much more than they contribute. Check CA. When the parents of 'anchor babies' become legal the firt think they do is apply for welfare. California even has a huge agency whose jobs depend on enrolling and supervising more and more such 'immigrants'.

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James64 Wrote: May 06, 2012 10:23 AM

Makes me feel bad that I went from a well-paid job with a reasonably good pension and only a couple years to retirement, to SSDI. This forced me onto MediCare after two years, even though I had good insurance - relegating that good insurance to secondary status. At least my share of insurance premiums will go down a little.
While I earned enough over long enough to get nearly "the max", it isn't necessarily a smart way to go - unless you have children. My youngest had a few months as a minor dependent and I was amazed to see HER amount was slightly more than half the size of mine! Even with token reductions, multiple children will make it "profitable".

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Wally123 Wrote: May 06, 2012 10:18 AM

And the main stream media will not report this.

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loadstar Wrote: May 06, 2012 9:29 AM

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Most of us have neighbors or relatives who are nice people, and are either choosing or being forced into being leeches

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The simple truth is that when the system makes it easy to claim disability, which it DOES, people will go for it. The 23 million employed by guvment can dog it due to "job stress" and other farces...as if guvment employment could be stressful!

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Robert125 Wrote: May 06, 2012 9:36 AM

That is because they have no pride, and an accommodating president. who is well on the way to becoming the dictator.

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James64 Wrote: May 06, 2012 10:44 AM

The problem with SS is perception: it has been turned into an entitlement due to the methods involved with payment (the way government handles the money) but to this day, it is presented as a form of insurance. Even the tax is treated in that fashion, with 'premiums' ending upon attainment of a certain amount.
Just eliminating the perception deception (rolling the SS taxes into income taxes over all reportable income) and limiting payout - of whatever sort - to only the individual would go a long way. As for children - they are the responsibility of the parent, are they not?

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Mark1369 Wrote: May 06, 2012 11:41 AM

When I had no choice but to go on disability after a decade of spinal surgeries [ 2.5 hour, 5 hour, and 11 hour surgeries every three years] it wasn't easy for me to get on SSDI. I worked for 5 additional years after my final surgery despite the pain and disability because I loved teaching and coaching. I had been paying into private disability insurance for years starting when I began my teaching career. Thank goodness I had it because they started paying me the first day [6 months after my last day of work] I was eligible but it took 2.5 years before SSDI approved me and that took reams of doctor reports and scans of my spine. I was rejected two times despite not being able to get out of my special spinal chair for more than cont.

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Mark1369 Wrote: May 06, 2012 11:45 AM

15 minutes at a time. The third time I had to go before a judge and after hearing all my information and seeing the reports I immediately was approved. I was very disappointed to be told I had to apply to SSDI as my purpose in buying disability insurance was to never rely on gov't payments, I sure hope the current group of "disabled" workers are properly vetted because it is suspicious that unemployment runs out then they apply for disability. Don't assume they have an easy to being approved for SSDI.

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loadstar Wrote: May 06, 2012 1:57 PM

Mark--

Your story is the exception that proves the rule...my mother-in-law bailed out on HUD claiming "job stress" and proceeded to go the next 35 years (so far) on guvment employee disability/retirement.

My gawd, if I had tried to tell a bank I worked for that I wanted to get "disability income" due to "job stress," they would have HOWLED laughing!

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James64 Wrote: May 07, 2012 11:37 AM

It is less that applicants may not be vetted than that the criteria to qualify has an increasing number of vague conditions - opening the door for some less-scrupulous individuals.
This is likely why your - and those I personally know - cases went to court.

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loadstar Wrote: May 06, 2012 9:21 AM

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Over half of social security payouts are made to people under 62. These are people claiming some sort of disability, like Air Trafic Controllers go on SS disability at age 55, claiming they are too burned out to work. There are dozens of situations in which one can qualify for government payments. Fraud is rampant.

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I know a guy who investigates disability fraud...he learned quickly not to bother with guvment employees claiming disability-- postal workers, bureaucrats, air traffic controllers, etc. The guvment does not oppose the claims-- after all, it is just the taxpayers' $...as for the lavish GSA parties, etc.

But 23 MILLION are employed by guvment-- the disability feeding frenzy becomes HUGE.

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AKA Deerhunter Wrote: May 06, 2012 9:03 AM

Disability fraud, food stamps, Obamacare, almost unlimited unemployment benefits, job killing EPA mandates, Illegal immigrants benefits, bogus green energy scams and on and on and on - all nails in the coffin of the USA. Re-elect the Messiah = RIP USA!!!!

Get with it you liberal fools - your descendents will be living in the squalor of a third world country along with everyone else.

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Libertarian pragmatist Wrote: May 06, 2012 9:09 AM

I frankly don't see how a Romney presidency can turn things around. With recession in Europe, sky high debt in the US, it will take a miracle to get out of this quagmire.

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Corndog2 Wrote: May 06, 2012 9:13 AM

You'd rather have 4 more years of obozo.

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loadstar Wrote: May 06, 2012 9:17 AM

BUT, Romney sees things TOTALLY differently from the ObaMessiah...most do not realize that Obama was RIGHT (in a bass akwards way) when he said "A Change Is Coming." Business hiring has been PARALYZED by the guy.

The Chosen One REALLY BELIEVES in Big Entitlement Guvment that redistributes wealth from those bad white people who accrued their wealth only because they stepped on the brown people.

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James64 Wrote: May 06, 2012 10:52 AM

Romney's success on economics will depend largely on the make-up of Congress. A sharp reduction in Progressives (of any Party) is the greatest hope for America.
As for Europe and the debt; these do not preclude 'turning things around' in the US. We are quite capable of getting out of the quagmire - which should obliquely help Europe as a result.
We need to do things differently than we - and they - have been. We must reject New Deal/Great Society/Progressive attitudes and return to our roots

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Mark1369 Wrote: May 06, 2012 11:53 AM

I know what you are saying but one sure way is to go hog wild on energy production in this country and get EPA out of driving these businesses out of the market. We would also have to take the step [I am not real comfortable with this] of keeping all oil and natural gas produced in this country must stay in this country. If we did that all the billions going to the ME would stay here generating jobs and we would have a million or more of jobs created by energy production.
This would greatly reduce our trade deficit and our federal deficit as the # of people working would increase dramatically. Add in policies for rewarding manufactures to return their plants to the U.S. and we would really see our economy take off.

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Joseph1790 Wrote: May 06, 2012 8:43 AM

I think we all saw this coming. When they extended unemployment benefits they essentially lost a large part of the workforce. More to come...............................

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Troy152 Wrote: May 06, 2012 8:25 AM

Drug addicts, are the one's that I know,Most of them go to doctors for pain meds,because they cannot afford their drug habit. So doctors hand out pain pill's and soon they will do anything to get them,Some of these people are in so much pain, according to them, but if you watch them real close they are running, jumping,doing anything a healthy person should be able to do.But once a month the pain hit them until the meds are filled. In time this leds to a claim that they are disable they hire a lawyer and get a check.......................

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RG_From_THP_1 Wrote: May 06, 2012 8:17 AM

ATTENTION!

And now a promise from the President.

'I will NOT allow the half of Americans who 'Pay NO Income Taxes', to bear the burden of the other half who are NOT paying their fair share of 'Income Taxes'.'

Barack Obama's Presidency Condensed - Part 1
http://thpatriots.blogspot.com/2011/09/retired-geek-obamas-presidency.html

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loadstar Wrote: May 06, 2012 10:49 AM

Fully 49.5% who FILE tax returns now pay no federal income taxes. Close to half of households get support from the guvment every month.

Doesn't it make sense to have at least some basic accountability for those voting for bennies for themselves?

Who actually PAYS income taxes...it is NOT at all like the Left brays:

http://www.ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income-taxes.html

The top 1% PAYS 36.73% of all taxes actually paid
The top 5% PAYS 58.66% of all taxes actually paid
The top 10% PAYS 70.47% of all taxes actually paid

How much is enough for the rich to pay their "fair share"?!

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dtruett Wrote: May 07, 2012 12:19 AM

Im tired of this faulty arguement also. The rich pay that percentage on the money they could not shelter. Then there is the arguement the poor can shelter their cash to if they can afford too. All in all it is not the same cost per dollar for everyone. Taxes should be simple fair, constitutonal withou all the loopholes.. That will never happen...

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oldnjal Wrote: May 06, 2012 8:01 AM

Thank you.
Not in my paper or on TV, other than Fox.
Both the regular newspapers and MSM are lying by omission.
Have not, yet, figured how it can be stopped, as it is suitable only to a dictatorship with a captive press.

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Rhcrest Wrote: May 06, 2012 7:51 AM

I met a woman recently who receives SS disbaility payments with no taxes taken out. If txes were taken out she would have the equivalent of a $50,000 a year job!

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oldnjal Wrote: May 06, 2012 8:07 AM

Most of us have neighbors or relatives that are nice people, and are either choosing or being forced into being leeches. And told it is their right to take from the working man or woman.
Socialists and Marxists know how hard it is to confront a taker, if that person is a friend, relative or close associate.
And it is easy enough to imagine the parasitism is on someone else, not you.

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Pistol Wrote: May 06, 2012 3:17 AM

Over half of social security payouts are made to people under 62. These are people claiming some sort of disability, like Air Trafic Controllers go on SS disability at age 55, claiming they are too burned out to work. There are dozens of situations in which one can qualify for government payments. Fraud is rampant.

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Andy440 Wrote: May 06, 2012 1:01 AM

We are headed rapidly toward a Greece-style fiscal and social meltdown; government spending and debt is un-sustainable; 25% of the working population is either un-employed or under employed, and un-employment among the youth is approximately 50%.
For economic starters, how about locating and 'kicking out' the millions of un-documented aliens who have sewed-up entire sectors of the entry job market. WHO in Washington DC is watching out for the AMERICAN middle and lower class? Americans want JOBS, not government hand outs!

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patrickhenry1734 Wrote: May 06, 2012 12:23 AM

The unemployment or under employment is -- 25%. Since the media will not report it -- it is now reported.

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oldnjal Wrote: May 06, 2012 8:11 AM

I know. How can we get Brian Williams, and the other "liars-by-omission" to say so?
'Rock Center' is not.

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