This was a fantastic piece in the Wall Street Journal by Randy Noonan. Personally, I have a lot in common with the fictitious Moe. Even went to junior college.

Obama and the Democrats want to tax the crap out of Moe. But, they say they only want to get the rich fat cats. It’s total class warfare. Don’t fall for it.

Moe is what’s right about America. He worked, lived his life, took some risk and made some decent money. He could be any color and anyone under the sun that was fortunate to be born here.

That’s what Obama never gets. He is so out of touch with normal America. He doesn’t even know what it’s like to swim in the mainstream.

Yesterday I was walking down the street in Chicago. By chance, I saw a big 6’5? black guy that looked familiar. “Rodney”, I yelled. He stopped, looked at me and smiled. We haven’t seen each other since 1982. We played basketball together for a couple of years.

He was walking home from work. We embraced, and chatted for 10-15 minutes. Rodney still looks like he could play, but we laughed since both of our 49 year old bodies are so beat up we can only watch now!

It was fantastic catching up with him. Rodney’s married and has two kids. Both finished college. He has the American dream. House, yard, cars and a decent paying job.

Rodney and me are both Moe. So are you.

Contrast that with Occupy Wall Street.  

In the beginning, there were a bunch of so called radicals protesting Wall Street bailouts.

I was cynical. Then I saw their demands. Then I called them out. Many on the left side of the business blogging community gave OWS the benefit of the doubt.

Once I saw Van Jones and the Unions involved, I knew it was straight Obama Astroturf designed to try and siphon off members from the Tea Party.

Now, the real evidence leaks form the Daily Caller. They are paying many of the protestors to protest.

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perden Wrote: Oct 13, 2011 7:54 AM
Heavy investment-banking deregulation, 1999-2000-2004 under:

Senate Banking Committee Charman Phil Gramm R-TX,
Sen Maj Leader Trent Lott R-MS,
House Speakers; Newt Gingrich R-GA - Dennis Hastert R-IL,

Treasury Secretaries; Robert Rubin - Lawrence Summers - Henry Paulson

Bill Clinton signed in 1999-2000

The Great American Stickup - Robert Scheer

How Reagan-GB-1-GB-2 Republicans and Clinton-Obama Democrats Enriched Wall Street While Mugging Main Street !

youtube.com/watch?v=mnd3Oa0RFhc

Celebrated journalist Robert Scheer uncovers the hidden story behind 1 of the greatest financial crimes of our time:

the Wall Street financial crash of 2008 and the consequent global recession.

ibooksdude.com/the-great-american-stickup-robert-scheer-2
perden Wrote: Oct 13, 2011 7:54 AM
Tariffs are needed on imported Chinese goods-products !

In 1985 the US-China Trade Deficit was only

-600-million-$$

US-Foreign Unfair-Free-Trade Deficits Totals !

Goods-Products

Obama - 2009-2011 -2-trillion-803-billion-$$$
G-B-2 --- 2001-2008 -7-trillion-$$$
Clinton - 1993-2000 -1-trillion-893-billion-$$$

US-China Unfair-Free-Trade Deficits Totals !

Obama - 2009-2011 ----825-billion-$$$
G-B-2 --- 2001-2008 -1-trillion-435-billion $$$
Clinton - 1993-2000 ----385-billion $$$
G-B-1 -- 1985-1992 -----56-billion-215-million-$$$

Given-wasted-lost to; uncivilized-barbaric,
beligerent-sadistic, corrupt-criminal Communist China !

In 1985 the US-China Trade Deficit was only

-600-million-$$

Traitorous-Treasonous-Corrupt-Criminal-Disgrace !
REBEL1865 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 5:43 PM
To BillK9 @3:12 Oct 8 -

Keerect!!!!!

Not only that, but notice how these "anti-capitalist" bums who HATE capitalism, couldn't take a dump without consulting their blackberries, or calling ahead for reservations! Capitalism is soooooo evil, but where would THEY be without it. MASS BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES!
Morpheus Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 6:56 PM
The Big Issue with Wall Street is that trying to end Wall Street Corruption is analagous to the War on Drugs. You have corporations, but when you buy from them, it doesn't matter how much you rant or rave, you just annoy and waste whatever resources you have to spend for the day to give your rant.
REBEL1865 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 5:34 PM
Jeff Carter, you're a real diamond in the rough. Great article. Like to read more of you!
kenneth416 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 11:59 AM
Let's wait and see how many of these yokels are still out there protesting against Wall Street when the weather turns nasty, with a little sleet and snow and the wind blowing in off the ocean. I would wager that there will be far fewer of them by January first.
Dan427 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 4:20 PM
Lets also hope for a good, hard rain to wash away the filth these low-lifes leave behind everywhere they congregate.
kenneth416 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 11:54 AM
What exactly are they protesting against? As I understand it, Wall Street is where the NY Stock Exchange is located. The NYSE simply accommodates those who wish to buy or sell stock in thousands of companies (as well as options, derivitives, indices, etc.) If one is unhappy with the NYSE, one can always opt out--that is, simply not utilize their services. The other businesses there are the large, international banks, like JPM Chase, CitiBank, and Morgan Stanley. Again, one is not forced to use these banks, as there are plenty of smaller, local banks, available, or one could simply put one's money under the mattress.
Chucky96 Wrote: Oct 10, 2011 11:01 AM
Ken, The problem with your confusion is that you are not thinking like a liberal.

"Its not my fault that I have nothing, some bank assisted an investor that took everything my president said I should have away from me"

"Accountability" and "choice" mean nothing to the lazy.
kywriter Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 10:13 PM
OMG, you're right - on Huckabee, one of his early guests was talking about how the Tea Party has common ground with these folks and should go down and protest with them - then in a Philly paper, the focus of the Occupy Philly profile was on how it was both the new protesters and the Tea Party. I was sitting here thinking, "Huh?"

You're right - astroturf designed to siphon off Tea Party members and redirect their rightful anger from government to Wall Street - with much of Wall Street acquiescing because Wall Street can't be voted out. This should be talked about extensively.
Nate121 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 10:08 PM
Let's see here. We can't blame the current administration for our troubles because that would be admitting we were fooled by a slick man behind a telepromter who as it turns out has no other qualities and that might be embarrassing for us. So instead we will blame the banks because uh ummm they charge too many fees? Oh wait no it's that they didn't create jobs with the bailout the puppet we voted for gave them? Hmmm wait maybe it's because I can't pay back the student loan the banks forced me to sign for and now the tax payer will have to pick up that tab. Yeah that's it. Wait what?
kent522 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 11:55 PM
anything but failed rep politics huh? Tax cuts, wars, deregulation, free speculation on oil futures, Chaney/bush agendas, naaahhh.
FastEd Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 6:04 PM
What a freakin' bunch of crap....Tea Party as real, poor people! There is NO Tea Party per se. It is a rag tag group of extremists who get terrific media attention. They represent a fraction - single digit - of the voting populace. Instead, the "Tea Party" is the corporate conglomerate of Dicky Army and his money, the Koch Bros., Karl Rove, Grover Norquist, etc. who use these rag tagers to support their corporate propaganda. As soon as a Tea Party platform supported a real middle class issue and went against the conglomerate, they would be dropped faster than a hot potato. Grow up people, you are not as important as you think you are. You are simple gogs in a much bigger wheel than you think.
Ress Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 6:15 PM
Nice parody of idiotic leftist anti-Tea party rants.
geotay Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 6:15 PM
Wow, a single digit did all that to the Democraps in the 2010 election? Geez, just think what 2012 will be like when they get up to two digits.

Aside from the fact that you know so much that isn't true, just because Progressives work in nefarious ways doesn't mean everybody does. Stop projecting.
AmyD Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 6:16 PM
Ed this bit of disinformation has been disproved many times.
Would the progressive parrot want a cracker?
Jonathan90 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 9:15 PM
Obviously a idiot I will of course flag as offensive. As a Tea Party member we do not get help we do not get money we do it as we preach on our own dime. Fast please limit your movements to going to your mailbox to get your uncle sugar check
Sorceress Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 9:58 PM
I am the Tea Party - I am 65 years old and retired. I worked all my life and paid for everything I got with the money i earned from that work. I raised a child and am now a grandmother. My income level has had its ups and downs and in retirement it is more down than up, but I am still living a pretty darn good life - or I was until the Left started trying to Socialize everything and raise the tax rates into the ceiling. I don't support "corporate propaganda" any more than you do, Fast Ed. I support free enterprise. I support a government that adheres to the enumerated powers in the Constitution - a SMALL number of tasks. I support lower taxes for everyone and less regulation. I support those candidates who will address the egregious
BK22 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 10:00 PM
I am the Tea Party - I am 65 years old and retired. I worked all my life and paid for everything I got with the money i earned from that work.
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Power to REAL AMERICANS! There are many of us and getting stronger each day. Pay Attention cause we are coming!
Sorceress Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 10:04 PM
takeover attempts by the Left and the Unions. I believe that we are individually responsible for the choices we make and that we need to have the freedom to make those choices win, lose or draw, I do NOT think government is the answer to anything. I believe in freedom OF not from religion. I think diversity is just something that divides and is harming our country. It's "E Pluribus Unum" From many one. There is a lot more, but I hope you get the idea. The Tea Party is old fashioned America. I get teary eyed when I see the flag go by and I love this country. I am a patriot. I am an American. I AM the Tea Party!
BK22 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 11:40 PM
The Tea Party is what used to be called the "silent majority"....except, we ain't gonna be silent no more.
kywriter Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 10:15 PM
What's a gog in a wheel? Is that what the word "agog" refers to? Or are you just that sad?

I've seen the Tea Party crowds. I've seen the Occupy crowds. I think I have no trouble figuring out who to believe. Enjoy your imaginary world, my friend. I hope you find a pony.
REBEL1865 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 5:36 PM
And you're a figment of everyone else's imagination on here. What a nutball "gog".
FinalRac Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 3:56 PM
If I were king, LOL, I would put Newt standing in front of all these OWS miscreants and have him tell them his solutions, have the yutes ask him questions and watch them cringe and cry over the fact that he could not only explain but shame them into going home to mommy and daddy since their cramped small minds have been brainwashed by leftist teachers and finally had a guy like Newt explain to them our values , heritage, and history. Cain could probably do the same thing but not as good as Newt could.
Ress Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 6:23 PM
You are mistaken in assuming that facts and logic could have any impact on their demented minds.
kent522 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 11:58 PM
yeah, it hasn't help yet, has it!!!
Han G Thesobs Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 3:28 PM
Most moronic diatribe I've read all day. "Obama and the Democrats want to tax the crap out of Moe. But, they say they only want to get the rich fat cats. It’s total class warfare. Don’t fall for it."

Unfortunate Facts: 1: R's have voted AGAINST Dem tax cuts for Americans for 3 years, demanding MORE tax cuts for the richest, over and over. So R's are ANTI-MOE unless MOE makes over $250k per year...NET! I'm not Moe, neither are you, NEITHER is Carter.
2: Went to Jr College JUST LIKE ME! YIPPEE! I got 1/4 of a HIGHER education! "I'm BETTER than freshman flunkies Beck & Rush Limbaugh!" (Higher education = 4yr "certified' colleges bud) I know...BOOOOO!
3: Class Warfare? =Americans re-JOINING the 200 yr war.
Ace2 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 3:46 PM
I've got a better idea - why don't you just go Han G yourself? Colleges are accredited, dimbulb, not "certified." Go join your crybaby buddies in the park - at least until it get cold. The 200 year war is and always has been for freedom from excessive government - not freedom from responsibility.
Andy440 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 5:12 PM
"Re-joining the 200 year war?" Oops... gave yourself away with that one.. You mean the 'war' against the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and Freedom, ain't that right, sobs? I hear that a radical Canadian group "Adbusters" is one of the leading lights in these protests. Figures... the nation that accepted the enemies and conquered foes of the American Revolution, the Loyalists and Tories (who settled there by 100's of thousands after the Revolution)-CANADA- is sponsoring an 'anti American revolution'.. Par for the course...
kent522 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 12:04 AM
U don't know patriotism from anti-Americanism my friend.
BK22 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 9:16 PM
Whena re we going to see any facts..unfortunate or not.
Jonathan90 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 9:18 PM
Well moron after Obama yourself and the rest of the nuts after you tax the "rich" you will be coming after the middle class your facts are lies and crap common liberal practices
kywriter Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 10:20 PM
1. There are Republican progressives. That's why the Tea Party scares the crap out of both sides.
2. A good plumber makes more than most people with a four-year degree, no matter where they graduated from, and with better chance of continued employment.
3. WTH are you talking about?
kent522 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 12:02 AM
The tax rates were ok under clinton and so was the regulation, what happened to the surplus knowitall?
Oh yeah, ole "how are we going to get into Iraq" came along=Trillions
BK22 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 7:32 AM
what happened to the surplus knowitall?
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How many times are you clowns going to print false info...no surplus under Clinton..EVER. Read something...anything.
Dan427 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 4:53 PM
My guess---you were a bum who didn't pay taxes under Clinton and you are still a bum who doesn't pay taxes under b o. Of course tax rates are ok with you. And regulations? Simply don't apply to bums. Also, I seem to remember a promise made by your messiah that he would end our involvement in Iraq in his first year in office----you must be so disappointed.
REBEL1865 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 5:38 PM
BillK9 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 3:12 PM
I would love to ask the Union people who joined this mob, where there pension fund is invested! Oh yes ! In those greedy corporations that are distributing their profits into their pension funds!
Han G Thesobs Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 3:44 PM
OK- I'd love to ask you where 50-75% of your home values went. (Bush-Bailed bankers and stock brokers) Where the WMD's went? Made up by Bush's PNAC buddies and the American Family Values funders. Where the Drugs & billions in profits from Afghanistan's 2008's 95% of the world's supply of heroin went. In 2001 it had 5%. Why does "Americans demanding reforms of FRAUD and THEFT" that include liberals & rednecks = MOB, but rednecks ONLY= Patriots? Divide and Conquer. Taught in mil officer studies in 4th yr., and by insurgents & Terrorists. R's have ALWAYS been caught sending agents in to create havoc & destruction in peace marches, the 2000 Florida vote counting, etc. Arrest lawbreakers & PUBLISH identities! Let's see.
Joe Kidd Returns Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 3:53 PM
Where did our home values go? Ask Barney Frank the idiot the blocked reform of freddie mac
and fannie mae
kent522 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 12:07 AM
kent522 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 12:06 AM
yeah, that are now worth 20% of their previous value. I guess we should have let bush talk us into investing our social security funds also huh?
BK22 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 7:33 AM
I guess we should have let bush talk us into investing our social security funds also huh?
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No...no one can talk you into anything. That's why YOU need big government to run your life.
Jim1653 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 3:07 PM
If any tea party members are involved in this wall street frackus, they need to be chucked out. I would like to see the police officers to make the guy who defecated on that patrol car, eat the crap. Anyone sick minded enough to do this needs to be eradicated. [put out of his/her misery] and it should be done quickly. These are Obamas favorite folks. Anyone who votes for this demon in the next election is out of their minds. Obama wants the US to be like Somalia.
kent522 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 12:08 AM
BK22 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 7:34 AM
It's "you're" numbnuts...you can't this stuff up folks.
hitthedeck Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 2:29 PM
They only feel empowered when they act as one. An army of revolt with an objective that will not reveal its self until after the destruction is done. The destruction causes a void that is remedially filled with the loudest voices establishing that they were the reason and the answer of why everything happened. The loudest will take the credit for the destruction and tell all that they have the answer. Their answer can only be given in force! The force will not work in the countryside. They can only control what is within their limit. If they try to impose their force outside their limit it will promote civil war. Fools will follow promises that can never be! The media shows us their combined strength as a mob with the appearance of...
hitthedeck Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 2:31 PM
appearance of strength when they are in their own limits but they are small compared to the people of America who are not fools.
Give me liberty or give me death.
Han G Thesobs Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 4:03 PM
OK- that makes no sense, but then that coincides with the previous rant. People banding together to protect each other, in order top create a more perfect unions, Of, by, and for the people. If you DESPISE these people trying to get the CORRUPTION out of government, you despise the very tenants of the US Constitution and bill of rights. Did you see Liberals calling these people DESPICABLE corrupt lazy bums and a mob? No. They DID PROVE who was funding the TP and DIRECTING them, like the billionaire energy-co Coch Bros, FOX(WallSJ) Find the FUNDERS, THEN complain. 10 wetbacks could just as easily have been hired by the famous fake-video-maker Britebart or a BB wannabe, always reported by non-news Internet News, and heralded as PROOF!
Han G Thesobs Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 4:16 PM
OOPS- erased the Tea Party between these and people.
This nut-case DAMN-'EM-ALL they're destroying MY AMERICA thinking and raving is just like the faked Birth Certificate story that was debunked by the ORIGINAL story writers but carried on by Right-wing funders. RESEARCH and logic will win the day just as the PNAC/BUSH WMD story was finally debunked, that ALL the media GLOMMED onto and reported... WITHOUT researching their OWN news stories that PROVED the opposite, making EVERYONE believe in non-existent weapons.
jimmylynn Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 4:33 PM
I can smell the fear in your opinions written here. You're so afraid. You know why? Because you know that you are just spouting a lot of trash. You know that Obama has led this country down a destructive path and now he will pay for it. You know that the liberal establishment that has supported and propelled him through it all is suffering from political apathy for their part in his folly.
BK22 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 9:19 PM
People banding together to protect each other, in order top create a more perfect unions, Of, by, and for the people
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Yup...especially the one's who can't speak english carrying signs written in english, the ones getting paid to be there and the one's who, when asked, really don't know why they are there.

They have been dubbed....the "Bums-R-Us" Party.
roadlesstraveledby Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 12:20 AM
;;;"the very TENANTS of the US Constitution and bill of rights"... who are those TENANTS of the Constitution? Is that the rent-controlled Constitution? Aha so that's where the OWS bums hide out between protests! No, Hang Yourself, I don't despise any of the TENETS of the Constitution - just those who hate America and try to hide behind her Constitution when it suits them. Who scream they're all about tolerance and inclusivity and diversity when it comes to Muslims and atheists and homosexuals, and mock and damn and marginalize Christians and Jews and, yes, the Tea Party (John Kerry telling the media they don't deserve coverage cause they're not REAL....)
Dan427 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 4:59 PM
And don't forget, Han, Bush brought down the Twin Towers.
Liberals Lie Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 2:26 PM
These are losers, loafers, and deviants for hire. Liberalism at its finest.
Han G Thesobs Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 4:08 PM
10 wetbacks, hired by a "self-admitting liberal organizer"jQuery152017720487457700074_1318101381959?? WTF? Like he'd admit to it PROUDLY! Makes sense to me! Reported by dubious "reporting"? = ALL those people are terrible losers and liars! WOW! That's real logic! Using YOUR logic, those 100's of people that held up the Tea Party signs that were misspelled and carrying guns means ALL the TP'ers are complete ignorant uneducated morons that are trying to intimidate people from arguing with them!! YOU should be CHUCKED out of the party for making such anti-American claims!
kywriter Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 10:25 PM
I'm Tea Party, and I have a genius-level IQ and decent college education. Most Tea Party signs were not only spelled, punctuated, and structured correctly, they were also hand-made. At liberal rallies, most of the signs that sound as if an educated person put them together are mass-produced and passed out at a booth.

And the reporting on the "w+++++k" controversy (really? you must use a racial slur?) is on video. That's pretty firm evidence, my friend.
Han G Thesobs Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 4:08 PM
10 wetbacks, hired by a "self-admitting liberal organizer"jQuery152017720487457700074_1318101381960?? WTF? Like he'd admit to it PROUDLY! Makes sense to me! Reported by dubious "reporting"? = ALL those people are terrible losers and liars! WOW! That's real logic! Using YOUR logic, those 100's of people that held up the Tea Party signs that were misspelled and carrying guns means ALL the TP'ers are complete ignorant uneducated morons that are trying to intimidate people from arguing with them!! YOU should be CHUCKED out of the party for making such anti-American claims!
Han G Thesobs Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 4:19 PM
Calling names and demeaning people you don't know, truly a real Christian, right? Family Values at it's Finest? Christian morals at their finest! Be careful what you say, everyone you say it to is a "mirror", and it REFLECTS back on YOU and YOUR possible illogical bias or ignorance.
jimmylynn Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 5:13 PM
BK22 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 9:20 PM
Chemurgic Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 12:05 AM
Here, try this survey from a guy who actually went in and surveyed a fair number of Wall Street demonstrators:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/39264_What_I_Learned_at_Occupy_Wall_Street

1. These folks don't exactly fit the descriptions being thrown with moronic abandon at TH, do they?
M.K. Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 2:23 PM
Deadbeats all ginned up by the left. A rotten collection of anti-American marxists.
Robyn51 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 1:38 PM
When my husband and I decided to go to DC for the big Tea Party a couple of years ago, the only thing we had ever seen about it was a couple of articles on the Internet. We decided to coordinate it with a vacation to visit family up north. We never received any emails or other communication from a "group", we were never paid, and we weren't offered any "deals". We had NO idea that it would be as big as it turned out to be. We were delighted. We met and spoke with a lot of folks and not one was paid to be there. All were some of the nicest people we had ever met. We only needed ONE sweet elderly lady to make sure we stayed within police lines, picked up ALL our own trash and didn't get into a single fight with police.
Robyn51 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 1:42 PM
We spent money in the hotels and restaurants, used cabs and bought our water and snacks from the vendors and shops. While we were there, we all did some sightseeing. In other words, we contributed to the local economy and "saved jobs" while we were there.
Now compare that to the scum infesting NY...They are NOT the Tea Party. In fact, they are the precise antithesis.
Jim1653 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 3:14 PM
What most do not realize is these people doing the wall street protest are people who are coming out of the rat warrens of NYC for the most part. NYC is the cesspool of the eastern seaboard, just as LA and San Fran are the cesspools of the western seaboard. Rats live in filth, talk filth and love to bask in their own crap. Rats want to be fed and will eat anything thrown at them, especially if it is spoiled. What these rats don't know is when the rich are toppled there will be nothing left. Well, I guess the country could stand a 30% lessening in population. Go get em rats.
Han G Thesobs Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 4:29 PM
Such hate for anyone that is trying to get the corruption out of Government... or wait, YOU say they're REALLY there to ELIMINATE the rich! That's a strange take on what THEY are saying, you must watch FOX, that's what THEY are saying. Since you are online, I'd suggest you research the Top Tax Rates from 1933 to 1983. You know the time? It was when the US was top of the heap, DEFICITS were low, unemployment low, USSR was already going bankrupt, the RICH in America had topped the worlds richest lists. The top 10% owned 80% of the US wealth. Now the top 2% own 90% of the wealth after the TOP 2% helped START the 2008 crash by demanding no regulations or regulators. They got richer, everyone else went bankrupt. Just like the Depression
BK22 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 9:20 PM
Han isn't the sharpest tack in the box!
Dan427 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 5:11 PM
So now HanG and his ilk are demanding their "fair share" from those wealthy sobs---wealthy is generally defined by leftist losers as as anyone who makes a dollar more that they do---unless, of course, it is a wealthy leftist.
Artanis Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 1:16 PM
Obama and the Democrats want to tax the cr@p out of Moe - Really? Going back to the Clinton era of +4.5% means that? The usual scare tactics.

Remember in early 09? The TP gained strength and they were against the bailouts, soon enough freedomworks co-opted the movement, now like sheeple they go where they are told and never mention the bailouts again.
morwitzer Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 3:05 PM
Artanis,

Yeah, I remember 2009 all right. I was serving overseas in Iraq and kept up to date with the news as I could. Watching the town hall meetings over Obamacare and seeing the Tea Party come into being actually gave me hope that a lot of my fellow Americans actually cared enough about our country to speak out against our politicians and their agendas.

I'm just glad the Tea Party isn't dying out, but is here to stay.
Han G Thesobs Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 4:38 PM
I'm just glad many of the SMART Tea Party members are running to join the "mobs" demanding that we get the money and corruption OUT of Congress. If you're against these anti-corruption guys, you're against the very tenants of our Constitution. Or...you're being PAID to write this stupid illogical cr*p. Then I hope you're paid more than "liberal" minimum wages for posting anti-American hate or kill sr*p. Probably done out of country, like 2008 Republican telephone fundraisers were for McCain/Palin. Yeah, that ticked ME off when I asked them where they were calling from. Years of research proves these aren't conservatives, but con-serv-artists. Research! Get OFF right-wing webpages that copy and paste stories, get REAL news.
BK22 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 7:35 AM
2 idiots posting.....LOL
Dan427 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 5:14 PM
Joanne199 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 12:40 PM
Who would dare compare them to the Tea Party? Ask them how many Tea Party members were arrested or paid to show up. Finally Mayor Bloomberg is complaining that they're costing the city millions and hurting tourism. How much did the Tea Party rallies cost?
Patricia2 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 1:12 PM
I agree with you! A TEA Party rally at the Capital Mall, a year ago, with hundreds of thousands of people left no more trash than a typical day. Some said they left the Mall cleaner than it is on any other day of the year. Hey compare that Rally to the Obama Inauguration Rally. It cost how much to clean up the disgusting mess? Maybe conservative also means clean, what do you think?
Robert54 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 2:31 PM
I think we Conservatives are believers in the rule of law. We like order. We plan. The left likes disorder as emplified by the mounds of trash they leave behind. We are taught to respect. They respect nothing, not even themselves. We feel we are bound to one another in a comon cause. They think only of themselves to the detriment of others. I am sure you can come up with more differences.
USNbubblehead Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 2:37 PM
Contrasts in personal hygiene comes to mind.
Han G Thesobs Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 4:50 PM
Conservatives? Believers in Law? Like Cheney shooting the lawyer? Bush's faked WMD's sories? Rumsfeld's faked Iranian Gunboat videos? The faked Jessica Lynch rescue? The 800billion dollar bailout of nameless banks by Bush? The missing 7 billion in $100 bills in Iraq that Bush refused to investigate? The outing of a CIA deep cover operative? The refusal of TODAYS republicans in Congress to investigate ANY wrongdoing in the financial FRAUD that caused the crash? Bush's REFUSAL to investigate WHO or WHAT caused 9-11? The cheating of J-Street and other "Christians" on their wives? R's PROTECTING admitted perverts like Vitter? Bush ignoring Mil. Orders to Duty! Believers in EVERYONE ELSE following the RULE of LAW, That's TRUE!
M.K. Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 11:21 PM
You statements are not truthful.
BK22 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 11:44 PM
Han is not very bright. Don't confuse him with the truth.
kent522 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 12:18 AM
sounds like elitist bs to me- we, they all generalizations
BK22 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 7:36 AM
Learn how to write first before anyone will take you seriously.
Dan427 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 5:18 PM
Yeah! And, and, and Bush blew up the World Trade Center!!!!!!!!
Han G Thesobs Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 4:43 PM
A) Bloomberg says they are trying to GET RID of Wall Steet Jobs, NOT TRUE. They are trying to get WALL Street OUT of Congress...BUT...I guess there's a LOT of WS Lobbyists working there, so Yeah, they might want to get rid of THOSE millionaires off the roles of TAX-FUNDED(all corporate writeoffs) leaches!
kent522 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 12:16 AM
who cares what it costs, what's i gonna cost if we don't change the leadership
Hunrodr Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 12:35 PM
“If I had a dollar for every time that capitalism was blamed for the problems caused by government, I’d be a fat filmaker with a baseball cap.”

i freakin love that line.
ron150 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 1:10 PM
Han G Thesobs Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 4:58 PM
If I had a nickle for everyone that SAID that Dems or liberals blame capitalism for the woes in government, I'd be the richest man in the world! A myth, made up to divide patriots that want to fix America. Like how Hunters, who pay $$$ and VOTE to maintain the wild and it's animals, are made to hate environmentalists, who do EXACTLY the same. Pretty LAME if you ask me, but the media? They LOVE it. The MORE you hate each other, the MORE they make in political ads and oil/energy "WE-LOVE-YOU" advertising. That's why they ALLOW liars and thieves to be commentators, without calling them on their past transgressions. Chris Mathews started doing it and his ratings JUMPED! Glen Beck-FIRED after Damning the Sup Ct LEGALIZING BRIBERY.
BK22 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 11:46 PM
If I had a nickle for everyone that SAID that Dems or liberals blame capitalism for the woes in government, I'd be the richest man in the world!
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No..you would still be broke. You believe the Hope-a-Dope campaign rhetoric of an incompetent clown.
kent522 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 12:22 AM
I thing they are reffering to the abuse of capitalism and the free market system. Remember credit default swaps and Lehman and betting against what your pushing to your customers=duh!
BK22 Wrote: Oct 09, 2011 7:37 AM
duh!
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Your new vanity plate?
Bill115 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 12:11 PM
Paying useful idiots to protest is nothing new for the left. I lived in the Seattle area for a few years in the 1980's, and the radical environmentalists did it there. Ads were run in the Seattle Times classified section. Though they were not worded to the precise nature of the employment opportunity, a call to the provided number revealed all. This is no new trick.
Han G Thesobs Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 5:00 PM
I lived in Phoenix and the R's did all that too, You could read between the lines and REALLY knew what they wanted and WHO "they" were...

Yeah, that's really believable. Do these little snippets really make anyone believe you? This is no new trick. lmao
pow1000 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 11:49 AM
What do we want? We dont know!
When do want it? Now!
Kenneth L. Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 11:47 AM
Allen wrote:
Mr. Carter,
There would be some validity in your article, if only you had not initiated the editorial by with your own foregone conclusions. Reading from the end of a book to the beginning is never a good approach.

I consider myself to be a Middle of the Road Conservative (which is where most of the country's Silent Majority resides politically), but I respect that citizens from all walks have a right to be heard. The Tea Party did it for the Right, why not the Wall Street Occupiers for the Left?

Allen J. Duffis - Editor - The Conservative Independent - www.conserveind.com
Kenneth L. Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 11:51 AM
Allen, even after having visited your website I am having difficulty understanding your view.
1) What is your opinion of the WSJ piece about Moe? What exactly do you mean when you say Carter has started his editorial with his "foregone conclusion"? I can't find that in his editorial, although if it is, indeed, an editorial I would be hard-pressed to find fault with his initiating an opinion piece with his opinion.
What are you getting at?
shubi Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 11:53 AM
Do you think any Mayor in this country would let the Tea Party occupy parks, poop in the streets and block traffic for days on end? Defending the anarchists and communists is tantamount to treason.
Kenneth L. Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 1:08 PM
As pow1000 said, "Bloomy is a coward and a liberal."
Han G Thesobs Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 5:11 PM
I think (know) the Tea Party as we know it now, was/is run by well-funded Republicans and Conservatives. For 10 years most governments were infused with R-lackeys, remember the Bush admin famously admitted it? Taking lawyers from Pat Robertson's "university" and giving them all Government jobs? Remember that one? Yeah, I remember Tea Party members BEATING up reporters or liberals covering their events. Yelling to KILL... Yeah, TP'rs would NEVER do anything "bad"... Sorry, but there's A*%^holes in every party. They RUN to get attention, and SOME get PAID to create havoc. NO ONE was arrested during the INDOOR GOV BUILDING RIOTS by Republican protesters, bused in, to stop Florida from counting it's votes by hand. ALL R' Gov! What Laws?
retiredcoach Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 12:43 PM
Because the Teas are polite, clean, mature, have a message,and are not violent!
The Streeters are rude, filthy, immature, want the world to see their confrontations with the police, and do not know why and what they are protesting!
Oh, and Streeters are hired- so Obama and his cronies can continue the Alinsky plan of destroying America and becoming a dictator!
ron150 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 1:16 PM
because the Wall st. protest has nothing to do with a grass roots movement it's organized from way up. Look up Steve Lerner SEIU economic terrorist he and his minions ( Van Jones) are behind these protests. it's not an organic movement. Most of the people there didn't even have a clear message and some of them are being paid to be there.
Carlos J. Negron Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 10:24 AM
Ask the so called"occupy wall street protestors " (2) questions 1 - what state are you from, 2 - what do you suggest we put in place of Capitalism?
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Han G Thesobs Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 5:14 PM
1) Does it MATTER what state they are from? Isn't this America where we're ALLOWED to protest in ANY state?
2) HOW are you DEMANDING we get RID of Capitalism or FIX it back to where there's RULES against FRAUD and THEFT and BRIBING GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS and COPS regulating it?

Much better questions I think, since these actually make sense from what the protesters are saying ALL ACROSS the NATION.

Get the WALL STREET MONEY and CORRUPTION out of OUR CONGRESS!
BK22 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 11:47 PM
If you believe that these protestors are legit...you dumber than they are.
Joe 145 Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 10:02 AM
I really like that last quote about the fat filmmaker. Thanks for the laugh.

What is scary is that so many have been and are being fooled. America has been great because of our economic system. This system works only at a fraction of its ability because of the handicaps that have been placed upon it for purposes of 'fairness' and 'equality'. Even my wife has bought into this crap. This ideology is NOT American and it is responsible for the election of President Obama.

Hopefully, we can get our country back. I do not hold up great hopes in the long term. Human nature does not change. I believe that we are going through a similar pattern as Rome. The fundamental values of any population change over time.
gxm Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 10:35 AM
“The fundamental values of any population change over time.”

That’s only because we allowed our education system to become a collectivist propaganda mill. Vouchers would help reverse that. We have to restore the Constitution and the republic or die trying. To paraphrase Churchill these collectivists will not win until I lie choking in my own blood upon the ground. I’ll admit it looks bleak but the alternative is to descend into a third world existence with its misery, penury, squalor, hopelessness, malnutrition, and premature death. In my youth I spent some time in the third world. Trust me we’re better off dead than living in a third world hellhole.
Han G Thesobs Wrote: Oct 08, 2011 5:20 PM
So- All men are created equal= NOT GOOD for America!
Of, By, and FOR the PEOPLE= NOT GOOD FOR AMERICA!
To form a more perfect Union= NOT GOOD FOR AMERICA!
The pursuit of happiness?= Not Good for America
Equal opportunity? Non-biased hiring? Whistle-blower protections?
Forcing poisoners of our population to PAY for it?
400,000 people per year DIE from pollution-related ailments.

Sorry- but your wife seems to have figured it out. You will too someday, as long as you keep her around. Congrats!
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