Not since 1833 have there been calls to abolish a United
States bank. At the time, it was President Andrew Jackson who
succeeded in abolishing The Second Bank of the United States.
Today it is Congressman Ron Paul of Texas who is calling for
an end to the Federal Reserve.
Paul lays out his thesis in his new book,
End the Fed
, in which he calls for an audit, and then an end to the
Federal Reserve. I recently interviewed Rep. Paul about
ending the Fed, his thoughts on the dollar, and financial
regulatory reform.
Paul thinks the Fed is the root cause of the financial
crisis and what permitted exorbitant risk-taking by companies
ranging from
Bank of America (NYSE: BAC) to
Citigroup (NYSE: C) and from
Morgan Stanley (NYSE: MS) to
AIG (NYSE: AIG). He believes abolishing the
Fed would spur people to save more and become more prudent
with their finances because free market forces, instead of a
central bank, would set interest rates, limiting the amount
of credit in the economy.
He is in favor of returning to the gold standard and
believes an end to the Fed will put an end to the dollar's
long trending depreciation. Paul also calls for more
regulation on the government and not the markets.
What follows is an edited transcript of the interview.
Jennifer Schonberger: In the wake of
the financial crisis, some in Congress want to give even
greater power to the Fed. You want to abolish the Fed.
Why?
Congressman Ron Paul : Because they caused
all the trouble. A monetary policy of easy credit and
artificially low interest rates was the main source of the
financial bubble, and the correction is always trying to fix
what the Federal Reserve has done. The only way you can
address the business cycle and prevent wild swings in the
business cycle is by addressing the Federal Reserve and how
they cause nothing but mischief.
Schonberger : Would you put something else in
place of the Fed, or revert to a laissez-faire approach and
let the free market forces play out?
Paul : Yes, I believe in free markets. We
don't have free markets and haven't had them. So it's
convenient for people to blame the free market for the
problems, but that's a fallacy. In a free market, capital
would come from savings. People put their money in a savings
account or something of real value, and that determines the
interest rates.
When people don't save, like we as a nation have not saved
for many decades, there is this illusion that there is still
so-called capital, or money made for investments. [In
reality] that capital came from a computer at the Federal
Reserve. Therefore it sent the wrong information to
businesses and savers, claiming that there was a lot of
savings out there. Based on that, people overinvested and
built too many houses. It's the Federal Reserve that sends
out the incorrect information.
Schonberger: So this would be a world with
less credit, would it not?
Paul : Yes, there would be less credit, but
it would still be steady growth. You would never have periods
of economic tumult if you had economic growth of 4% or 5% --
so you would never have the temptation to turn it off.
… There would be enough credit, but there
wouldn't be an excess amount. … It would be
determined by the marketplace rather than by the
artificialness of the Federal Reserve.
Schonberger: In terms of getting people to
save more, what are your thoughts on the consumption-based
value-added tax that's been talked about recently?
Paul : It'd be a disaster. Most people from
the Keynesian side are always arguing that the main driving
force of the whole economy is consumption. In free market
economics, it's savings, building capital, and buying things
that have value. Consumerism can be artificial if it comes in
the form of easy credit from the Federal Reserve. So, if
you're going to try to stimulate consumerism, and on the
other hand tax it, it doesn't make any sense at all.
Schonberger: What is the biggest downside
risk to abolishing the Fed?
Paul : I don't know of any risk. The biggest
challenge is that people might not understand it. If there
are problems they might blame the problems on getting rid of
the Fed. The problem would really be coming from the fact
that we had it … The first year would be
tough. The problems would be due to the fact that the Fed
would cause so much harm in the correction phase, which is
always necessary.
Schonberger: Our economy is increasingly tied
to
economies around the world. What would eliminating the
Fed mean for the global economy?Â
Paul : It depends what you replace it with.
If you allow the market to replace it with commodity money
and make sure various countries believe in free trade,
tariffs should go down, and free trade should reign. You
should be able to have much freer travel, so it would be a
real move towards globalism and global trade. If only one
country does it, there's more of a challenge, and only the
person who goes onto the gold standard would benefit.
Schonberger: You're of the belief that
abolishing the Fed will thwart
the dollar's long-trending depreciation. Explain to me
how that works.
Paul : There's no dilution factor. In my
book, I use the example of when I was a kid and my dad always
had to check to make sure the milk wasn't diluted. Sure, it
stretches the milk, but it doesn't stretch the quality. This
would be the most important thing for eliminating the
problems that the Fed has created. Continued... |